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Joe Gillis
2004-06-19 02:02:50 UTC
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http://www.metnews.com/articles/reminiscing031303.htm

Thursday, March 13, 2003

REMINISCING

Lloyd Thaxton: Local Personality

By ROGER M. GRACE

A few months ago, I was writing a column on Oscar Levant and wanted to get
ahold of a particular person who had appeared on the late wit’s local TV talk
show, delivering commercials. I tracked him down to “LT Productions,” and
telephoned “information” for the phone number.

There was no listing. The operator queried, “Do you know what ‘L.T.’
stands for?”

“Lloyd Thaxton,” I responded.

“Oh, I know HIM!” came the enthused reaction of an obvious fan.

Thaxton had a lot of them.

He was youthful, personable and good-looking in those days, 45 years back, when
he delivered spiels on KCOP, and co-hosted a show on that station with the
pianist’s wife, June Levant, after Oscar Levant had a blowup with management
and moved to KHJ-TV. Thaxton soon starred in a local afternoon show resembling
Dick Clark’s “American Bandstand,” and emceed network television shows in
the 1970s.

White-haired now, Thaxton remains youthful, personable and good-looking.

Thaxton came to Los Angeles in 1957 from Toledo, Ohio, where he had hosted the
top-rated local show, “Leave It to Lloyd.” He became a “freelance
announcer” here.

I hadn’t heard that term before talking with Thaxton. A freelance announcer,
he explained, would go from station to station to deliver commercials. That
was, of course, at the tail end of the live television era. Videotape had been
developed, but was not yet widely used.

“I would do the same commercial over and over again,” Thaxton said.

He’d deliver a White Front (discount store) commercial on Channel 9 at 11
a.m., get in his car and go to Channel 2, and repeat the same spiel, he
recalled. And he would keep running into the same “freelance television
guys,” such as Lloyd Simon, in station parking lots, Thaxton noted.

At KCOP, he would deliver spiels on the talk shows of the erratic Oscar Levant
and the controversial gabber, Tom Duggan. Thaxton told me that after Oscar
Levant had bolted from KCOP, station manager Al Flanagan asked him to a do show
with June Levant, promising that if he did, “I will also give you a show of
your own.”

June Levant was possessed of charm and self-confidence. She was a former
actress. But I remember her first day on her afternoon show, with Thaxton as
her announcer/sidekick. She seemed uneasy.

“She was scared to death,” Thaxton confirmed.

On her husband’s show, he recounted, “she would read the mail” and “she
didn’t really have to come up with any new, fresh ideas.” But this was now
“The June Levant Show,” and “she was very nervous,” Thaxton said. His
own role on the show, as he described it, was that of “kind of leading her
on, and asking her questions—like interviewing her.”

Aired for an hour each weekday afternoon, “45 minutes of the hour was made up
of films,” the announcer recalled. A movie would be continued from day to
day.

Eventually, however, June Levant became at ease, the movie was eliminated, and
the program became a “true talk show,” Thaxton said. June Levant would chat
with someone like Pamela Mason (wife of actor James Mason, and a local TV
personality), he brought to mind, remarking: “I more or less sat there and
introduced the commercial breaks.”

The show, which started in 1958, lasted about a year.

Flanagan made good on his promise to give Thaxton a show of his own. “Lloyd
Thaxton’s Record Shop” went on the air in 1959, while he was still
announcer on June Levant’s show. It was broadcast weekdays. He sat behind a
counter on a set “made to look like a record shop,” Thaxton explained.
“It had a lot of live commercials, and I did them all,” he mentioned.

It was not quite a one-man show. He had guests, who dropped by to plug their
records, or just to chat. They included dancer Fred Astaire, comic Jerry Lewis,
musical director/composer Johnny Green, and composer Dmitri Tiomkin. Back then,
“it was much easier than it is today to get big name guests,” Thaxton
remarked.

In 1961, “The Lloyd Thaxton Show” was launched on KCOP. It featured
teenagers, brought in from local high schools, dancing to records. Thaxton
said:

“No one told me what I had to do. I was producing it myself. I was writing it
myself.”

He lip-synched vocals and played the guitar and piano.

Seen from 5 to 6 p.m., the show started with a viewership “of three homes,”
he said facetiously. Thaxton said the show went from “total obscurity to
number one” show in the time period, reaching 350,000 homes.

And then, it went into national syndication.

Just as those of the graying hair set tend to associate Sheriff John [Rovick]
and Engineer Bill [Stulla] with their childhoods, many think of Dick Clark and
Lloyd Thaxton in connection with their teen years.

Clark on Aug. 5, 1957 brought his local Philadelphia show, “Bandstand,” to
the ABC-TV network as “American Bandstand,” where it endured for 30 years.

Thaxton may be thought of by Los Angeles viewers as a local boy who made good.
He took his KCOP dance show, aptly titled “The Lloyd Thaxton Show,” into
national syndication in September, 1964, via videotape—and MCA sold it in 127
markets.

A few stations called upon Thaxton to make the show more sophisticated. It
including lip synching and goofing off.

“I never changed what I did,” he told me in an interview.

At first on the syndicated show, he would identify the particular high school
from which the teenagers had come, just as he had done when the show was
broadcast only in Los Angeles. Thaxton remembered that it was an executive at
the New York station that carried the show who admonished him:

“I want this to be my show. So I don’t want you to mention Hollywood or the
high schools.”

He complied. As a result, he related, people will come up to him and remark,
for example: “I watched you when you were on in Cleveland,” thinking that
what they saw had been a local show.

Top recording artists of the day, such as Jan and Dean, The Statler Brothers,
The Turtles and the Monkees, made guest appearances.

A colleague of mine saw last week’s column on Thaxton and advised that he had
first heard of the TV show host in a 1983 song by the Go-Gos, “Beatnik
Beach.” One stanza is:

“The gang they’ll all be there.

“Join the fun and don’t be a square.

“We’ll lipsync a go-go

“Just like the Lloyd Thaxton show. Yeah.”

Thaxton had a role in the 1964 Jerry Lewis movie, “The Patsy,” playing a
disc jockey. Other local personalities were also in the film: Bill Leyden (who
had hosted movies on KTTV), Del Moore (who had done the same, and had earlier
played Alvin, the husband, on KCOP’s “Life With Elizabeth” starring Betty
White) and Dave Willock, who had been teamed with Cliff Arquette (“Charlie
Weaver”) on an early 1950s comedy show on KNBH (now KNBC).

The next stop in Thaxton’s career was ABC. From Feb. 6, 1967 to Dec. 29 of
that year, he was emcee of network’s daytime show, “Everybody’s
Talking.” Clips were shown of person-on-the-street interviews, and celebrity
contestants tried to guess what they were describing.

Ironically, a personality who had tried out as emcee but got a consolation
prize as announcer was Wink Martindale, who had been a rival of Thaxton in the
L.A. market for viewership of teenage rock ’n’ roll aficionados. He hosted
“Teenage Dance Party” on KHJ-TV, Channel 9, later on KCOP. (Martindale went
on to become quizmaster on other network game shows, including “Gambit” and
“Tic Tac Dough.”)

Thaxton hosted another ABC game show, “Funny You Should Ask,” from Oct. 28,
1968 to Sept. 5, 1969. Contestants tried to match the answers that were given
before the show with the celebrities who had uttered them.

In 1978-79, he was the producer of “Pro-Fan” a syndicated show he created
which featured amateur and athlete contestants answering questions and doing
stunts. Thaxton also served as announcer.

He became producer-writer-director of “Fight Back! With David Horowitz,”
both in its syndicated form, beginning in 1980, and as installments of the
“Today” show on NBC. In 1989, Thaxton received a local Emmy in connection
with his direction of that consumer rights show—one of five Emmys he’s
garnered.

He was co-author with John Alston of a motivational book, “Stuff Happens (And
Then You Fix It!),” released in January.

His daughter is Jennifer Weatherly, a country western singer who has
established herself both in the United States and Europe.



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"I don't mind lying, but I HATE inaccuracy." -- Samuel Butler
Ed
2004-06-19 03:06:56 UTC
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Post by Joe Gillis
(An article on the host of a fondly remembered music show -- a few pics at the
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http://www.metnews.com/articles/reminiscing031303.htm
Thursday, March 13, 2003
REMINISCING
Lloyd Thaxton: Local Personality
This was a great show. It was on in Chicago just as I got home from H.S.
each afternoon. I just remember some big guy lip syncing "My boy lollipop".
Ed
Ron Hontz
2004-06-19 03:31:50 UTC
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Post by Joe Gillis
(An article on the host of a fondly remembered music show -- a few pics at the
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I recall watching him on a Philly station that was carried on that new
invention--cable TV, up the pike to us at King's College in Wilkes
Barre, PA in 1964. Most memorable was Lloyd pretending to play along on
his piano, pushing those pedals with his bare feet.
Mr. M
2004-06-19 12:34:01 UTC
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Post by Ron Hontz
Post by Joe Gillis
(An article on the host of a fondly remembered music show -- a few pics at the
web site)
I recall watching him on a Philly station that was carried on that new
invention--cable TV, up the pike to us at King's College in Wilkes
Barre, PA in 1964. Most memorable was Lloyd pretending to play along on
his piano, pushing those pedals with his bare feet.
I used to see it listed in the TV guide was I was 7 . I wasn't sure
how to pronoince a word with a double letter at the beginning.

MN
Marc Wielage
2004-06-19 05:08:10 UTC
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"SO WHAT?"

That was the catch-phrase all the kids yelled at the end of every Lloyd
Thaxton TV show. I remember it well when it was briefly syndicated around
1965 or so. His theme song was Bill Black's R&B hit of the same name, a very
low-key, jazzy, non-rock & roll tune.

Lloyd was infinitely hipper and funnier than Dick Clark, and (to me at least)
never came across as phony. Sadly, my understanding is that most of the
shows are lost, after the station erased all the master tapes and re-used
them.

--MFW
Ed Cate
2004-06-19 19:37:32 UTC
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Post by Marc Wielage
Lloyd was infinitely hipper and funnier than Dick Clark, and (to me at least)
never came across as phony.
That he was! I recall the show being called "Lloyd Thaxton's Hop". My favorite
recollection is that of him acting like a school teacher(with long pointer in
hand)going over the words to the Trashmen's "Surfer Bird", while the song was
being played in the backround. Very funny stuff, indeed!

Ed
Norm Katuna
2004-07-04 17:51:57 UTC
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 05:08:10 GMT, in rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s, Marc Wielage
Post by Marc Wielage
"SO WHAT?"
That was the catch-phrase all the kids yelled at the end of every Lloyd
Thaxton TV show. I remember it well when it was briefly syndicated around
1965 or so. His theme song was Bill Black's R&B hit of the same name, a very
low-key, jazzy, non-rock & roll tune.
You may be right, but.... I seem to remember the "So what" being at the
beginning of the show.

He would come out and say... "My name is Lloyd Thaxton" and then the kids would
yell "So What".

I do have the Capitol 45 release of this called "My Name is Lloyd Thaxton" and
it starts out with him saying "My name is Lloyd Thaxton" some kids yelling so
what, and then two minutes or so of an instrumental.
Post by Marc Wielage
Lloyd was infinitely hipper and funnier than Dick Clark, and (to me at least)
never came across as phony. Sadly, my understanding is that most of the
shows are lost, after the station erased all the master tapes and re-used
them.
My favorite part of the show was his lip-syncing.

Also, I think it was for my 20 year hs reunion (1983) that I got reunited with a
former friend that just happened to work as a cameraman on the "Fight Back with
David Horowitz" show which was directed by Thaxton.

I asked him to ask Thaxton a couple of questions and he came back with, "Lloyd
Thaxton hates to talk about that period of his life. That was then and this was
now, and he wanted to move on with his life and forget his T.V. rock and roll
show host days."

Another little tidbit. The hipper DJs back in the 60s liked to link themselves
to the music of the time. Roger Christian of KFWB did a whole bunch of surf
song writing.

At least one KRLA personality had his own night club. (Reb Foster?)

The Real Don Steele did "Cecil the unwanted French Fry" on Patches records.

This leads me back to Thaxton who had at least one more vinyl episode other than
that Capitol 45.

Vault records issued "Lloyd Thaxton goes surfing with the Challengers" which is
the same release as the just plain "Surfing with the Challengers". On the cover
on the Thaxton issue, there is a picture of him in the little circle on the
cover, where in the Challengers only issue, there is a cartoon of a drummer in
that same circle. Thaxton's is Vault 101 and the Challengers only is Vault
101A, which leads me to believe the Thaxton issue is the original first
pressing.

Norm K
Marc Wielage
2004-07-05 00:45:35 UTC
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Hi, Norm! Great to see you back. I have some time off before the TV season
starts, so I'm hanging out here in the groups as long as time permits.

As to Lloyd Thaxton, here's how I remember the end of the show:


[close-up of the host]
"Thanks for watching our show, and remember, my name is Lloyd Thaxton!"

[cut to wide shot of teens]
<yelling> "SO WHAT?"

[cut back to Lloyd, looking unhappy]

[theme plays]
[cut to kids dancing, roll the credits]


So that's how I remember the show ending. This was the syndicated version,
circa 1965-1966, as we saw it in Florida. I have no doubt you saw something
else here in California. Terrific show, though.
Post by Norm Katuna
I do have the Capitol 45 release of this called "My Name is Lloyd Thaxton" and
it starts out with him saying "My name is Lloyd Thaxton" some kids yelling so
what, and then two minutes or so of an instrumental.
--------------------------------snip----------------------------------<
Yeah, it took me years to figure it out, but the instrumental jazz song they
played was Bill Black's 1962 #78 hit "So What," released on Hi 2055. It got
reissued on the MEMPHIS ROCK 'N' SOUL PARTY CD a few years ago, and I was
able to confirm that was the song I remember. "Doom-doom-doom-doom-doooom
doom-da-doom DOOM, like that.

A friend of mine locally who's in the business of researching old rock & roll
footage for TV commercials and specials told me the same thing you said:
that for whatever reason, Lloyd was unhappy with those years of his life, and
doesn't like talking about it today. I think he was just pissed-off that the
show wasn't more successful, plus a lot of the shows he did were erased
and/or thrown away, so there's no way to make money on them today.

I spoke to LA DJ Art Laboe back in the 1980s, and he told me at the time he
also tried to get into TV teen dance shows in the 1960sw. He was chagrined
to find that he "didn't have the face for TV," as he put it, and
better-looking hosts like Dick Clark got much more successful as a result.

--MFW
Ed
2004-07-05 09:42:09 UTC
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Who knows why we remember stuff ? Maybe if this stuff gets posted here, then
it leaves the brain open for new stuff that will drive you crazy trying to
remember, 35 years from now?
So anyway...here goes "Lloyd Thaxton's Kiddie Rancheroo" from my brain. Bye
Bye :-)
Ed
Post by Norm Katuna
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 05:08:10 GMT, in rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s, Marc Wielage
Post by Marc Wielage
"SO WHAT?"
That was the catch-phrase all the kids yelled at the end of every Lloyd
Thaxton TV show. I remember it well when it was briefly syndicated around
1965 or so. His theme song was Bill Black's R&B hit of the same name, a very
low-key, jazzy, non-rock & roll tune.
You may be right, but.... I seem to remember the "So what" being at the
beginning of the show.
He would come out and say... "My name is Lloyd Thaxton" and then the kids would
yell "So What".
I do have the Capitol 45 release of this called "My Name is Lloyd Thaxton" and
it starts out with him saying "My name is Lloyd Thaxton" some kids yelling so
what, and then two minutes or so of an instrumental.
Post by Marc Wielage
Lloyd was infinitely hipper and funnier than Dick Clark, and (to me at least)
never came across as phony. Sadly, my understanding is that most of the
shows are lost, after the station erased all the master tapes and re-used
them.
My favorite part of the show was his lip-syncing.
Also, I think it was for my 20 year hs reunion (1983) that I got reunited with a
former friend that just happened to work as a cameraman on the "Fight Back with
David Horowitz" show which was directed by Thaxton.
I asked him to ask Thaxton a couple of questions and he came back with, "Lloyd
Thaxton hates to talk about that period of his life. That was then and this was
now, and he wanted to move on with his life and forget his T.V. rock and roll
show host days."
Another little tidbit. The hipper DJs back in the 60s liked to link themselves
to the music of the time. Roger Christian of KFWB did a whole bunch of surf
song writing.
At least one KRLA personality had his own night club. (Reb Foster?)
The Real Don Steele did "Cecil the unwanted French Fry" on Patches records.
This leads me back to Thaxton who had at least one more vinyl episode other than
that Capitol 45.
Vault records issued "Lloyd Thaxton goes surfing with the Challengers" which is
the same release as the just plain "Surfing with the Challengers". On the cover
on the Thaxton issue, there is a picture of him in the little circle on the
cover, where in the Challengers only issue, there is a cartoon of a drummer in
that same circle. Thaxton's is Vault 101 and the Challengers only is Vault
101A, which leads me to believe the Thaxton issue is the original first
pressing.
Norm K
Tedalvy
2004-06-19 07:57:28 UTC
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I attended a taping of The Lloyd Thaxton Show (a local L.A.afternoon dance show
on Channel 13 in L.A.) where JOHNNY CASH performed Ring Of Fire (probably a lip
sync like all other guests) during Summer of 1963 outdoors at POP (Pacific
Ocean Park Amusement Park on Ocean Park Pier) just south of the Santa Monica
Pier (which now has similar amusements to POP like rides and games). Ocean Park
Pier is gone now, but memories still remain of Ring Of Fire sung by the Man who
made I'll Walk The Line (a song playing then at KFWB Hollywood as an oldie from
1956). Still wrestling with my memory cells to remember others at that taping,
but I can only remember the powerful impression made by JOHNNY CASH on a music
hungry teenage mind.

peace, ted alvy
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